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A Question and Answer Session with Jeffrey Hollender about What Matters Most
WHAT MATTERS MOST:How a small group of pioneers are teaching social responsibility to big business - and why big business is listening
By Jeffrey Hollender with Stephen Fenichell
(CSRwire) What is the book about?
What Matters Most is about the fundamental change that is occurring
in society and business that is making responsible corporate behavior an
imperative rather than something a handful of businesses choose to do.
The book deals with the question of the costs involved in being a
responsible business and the long held assumption that being responsible
adversely affects financial performance. We cite a wealth of research that
convincingly demonstrates that responsible businesses not only perform as
well as values neutral businesses, but in most cases actually out perform
them based upon traditional financial metrics.
A third area that the book deals with is the question of 'why should
businesses be responsible?' The answer is that the question is no longer
relevant because business no longer has a choice. When business becomes
the most powerful institution in our society, it can't escape being held
to some level of ethical and moral accountability. If the most powerful
institutions in our world refuse to be held accountable then certainly
there is no hope for the future. Fortunately, our society has awoken to
this obligation and our citizens will no longer let business avoid taking
responsibility.
The last area that the book highlights is the fact that changes impacting
the business community are really representative of a larger cultural
shift affecting our society as a whole. Whether you look at the change in
the way that the Middle East war was covered with five hundred embedded
reports today versus zero reporters eleven years ago, or the recent
Columbia Space Shuttle disaster where NASA bent over backwards to create
transparency versus the Challenger accident 13 years ago where they were
totally tight lipped with no discloser whatsoever, or the revolution
within the Catholic Church where for years people whispered about abuses
that were covered over or denied versus today when those whispers find a
receptive and open audience who in turn is forcing change that would have
been inconceivable only a few years back, we are finding more and more
evidence that responsibility, transparency and accountability are becoming
the new cultural norm. This exponentially expanded level of openness,
honesty and disclosure are defining new social norms that are affecting
all of our institutions in society.
Why did your write the book?
I wrote the book because my whole life has been a dance with issues about
values and responsibility. I felt that through my experience as President
and CEO of Seventh Generation, the nation's leading brand of natural
household products, I could help explain the history of social
responsibility, where it has come from - where it is today and most
importantly, how we as businesses, as employees, as customers, and as
investors can engage and help move the rest of the business community
forward in a direction that will maximize its positive impact on the
world.
When I started out to write the book I started from the perspective of a
cynic that, in reaction to the Enron/WorldCom/Martha Stewart scandals,
businesses were going to create expensive and elaborate window dressing to
create the appearance and illusion that they were good corporate citizens.
I set out to unmask what I thought was going to become a massive "green
washing" phenomenon. However, after spending over a year writing,
researching and interviewing leaders at numerous companies, I came to a
conclusion that I never expected - that business is changing and that
there is tremendous reason for optimism because business really has taken
these challenges to heart. I'm not talking about just the usual group of
responsible businesses like Patagonia and Working Assets, but companies
like Chiquita, Intel and Toyota who, often quietly, have become leaders in
this whole new way of doing business. Businesses have not just come to the
conclusion that they don't want to end up like Enron, they have actually
engaged in very fundamental processes of change - even though it's often
not fast enough or deep enough for everyone's satisfaction.
How do you run Seventh Generation as a Socially Responsible
Business?
It's a fascinating challenge to a large part because there are so few
rules, benchmarks and clearly defined road maps. The first thing I would
say is that Seventh Generation is far from perfect, and a core part of
corporate responsibility is being open about our failures and
shortcomings. We do practice a whole variety of techniques to help ensure
that we behave in a manner that is in keeping with our values - it all
starts with those values. Developing a culture that both understands and
is committed to those values is essential. Articulating the behaviors that
are consistent with those values and creating benchmarks to monitor your
behavior against your values is a discipline we are just learning to
master.
While excellent employee benefits, community involvement, charitable
donations, outstanding customer service and products that exceed customer
expectations are all important, if not critical, we practice corporate
responsibility based upon a new set of metrics: how honest and complete is
the communication between staff members as well as with customers and other
stakeholders; how safe is it to challenge your boss (how many people are
willing to show up and sit across from me and let me know that they feel
that my own behavior seems to conflict with our stated values?); what's
employee turnover like, and why are people leaving; To what extent do our
products and our entire company deplete the planet of non-renewable
resources, create greenhouse gasses or produce solid waste: and so on.
These are just a few of hundreds of questions we ask and track on a daily
basis.
We do a variety of other things, too. Every year we take several days and
have a staff retreat where we explore what our values mean, how well we are
doing at living them and in what ways can we make changes to better live
those values. We are just completing our first corporate social
responsibility report to publicly set forth how well we are doing - how we
intend to measure ourselves - what a good job means and what goals we are
setting for ourselves in the future. We integrate personal, community and
value based goals into everyone's job description and performance
expectations. How well our employees do on dealing with their personal
and community goals impacts how much of a bonus they earn. We also do 360
degree reviews, use coaches to facilitate interpersonal development,
provide on site massages, take two days a year to snow shoe, raft or just
walk through the woods together, insist that everyone in the company
serves on a committee like our "green team" or "community service group"
and a long list of other activities - we focus pretty obsessively on the
importance of work-life balance. Does all this take away from our
business success? Not at all, we've been growing at about 25% a year for
the past five years. We are profitable and have become the nation's
leading brand of natural, non-toxic household products.
What are the key issues that a business must address to become a
socially responsible company?
As I said, it all starts with values. First, you have to develop and
build consensus and understanding around a clear set of values and
operating principles. This doesn't mean a list that is mounted on a
plaque and hung on the wall - it must live in the hearts and minds of
every employee. Second, commitment from the top of the company is key
because if the head of the company is not committed to being open and
honest how can you expect anyone else to be. Once you are clear on your
values, you then move into a more formal process of determining what
structure, benchmarks and measurements are needed to evaluate your
progress toward achieving a set of goals based on your values. There are a
whole variety of structures. Most of them are framed in the kind of
Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) reporting companies do to determine
and disclose their socially responsible activities. The benefit of these
reports is that they ask you a series of questions that force you to
address different aspects of your business. Next you need to decide how
operationally change will happen - who is responsible for what, where are
the conflicts, challenges, roadblocks etc.
I also think the notion of transparency and disclosure is something you
have to come to terms with early on, because the kind of transparency and
disclosure that is required of a responsible business is very different
than what most businesses are used to. Most businesses are used to only
disclosing financial information, or positive news about new products, new
customers or new hires. They are not used to having to report, how much
pollution they are creating, what the impact of that pollution is on the
environment and what the health impacts of the pollution might be. There
could be other issues that pertain to their products: safety, problems
with quality control, conflicts with local community groups or allegations
from other businesses of unfair competition that are all within the
appropriate scope of disclosure and transparency. Companies need to
understand and come to terms with what is required from a transparency and
disclosure perspective because if you don't, you will never create trust
which I think is the fundamental part of being a socially responsible
business.
Often businesses will look for non-profit partners. If you are operating
in a third world country and you are extracting natural resources, it was
probably not on your agenda to build constructive community relations with
the indigenous people in the area. You may not have the experience needed
to develop those relationships so you create partnerships with NGOs who
can help you address those challenges in a responsible manner. These
organizations now can become your allies, as opposed to your critics.
I think it is important to remember that we are in the middle of this
fundamental change and while we have learned many lessons on what works
and what doesn't, there are many unresolved questions that we are still in
the process of seeking answers to. It's a messy process. And, it is a new
process. It's also a process that has poorly defined boundaries - when we
talk about responsibility, what exactly are we responsible for, how
broadly does that responsibility extend, where does it start, where does
it end? I think one of the scariest things for businesses is being
responsible to something that has no limits. Simon Zadek relays this
story from a frustrated executive in his new book The Civil
Corporation:
"As a water utility, we are a major landowner. We have been approached by
representatives of the anti-hunting league and asked to stop renting out a
parcel of land for use by sports-hunters. To be honest we don't have a
corporate view on hunting and do not particularly want to have one. Where
does this all end? If there is a church but no mosque on our land, will we
eventually have to have a view on God?"
We have seen how difficult it is for businesses to live in a time of such
rapid change, where the expectations of their stakeholders can change from
month to month. A company's responsibility often seems to grow ever wider
in concentric circles, bringing greater territory and increasing the
tension between what they are obligated to account for and what critics
feel is fair to take aim at. If you think about a company like Nike,
everyone today can say they should have been responsible for the way the
laborers employed by the contract manufacturers and who made their
products were treated; however, ten years ago there were thousands of
American companies who did not think twice about this and would never have
considered it part of their responsibility. Our whole economy was built in
part upon goods and services provided by third world countries at very
cheap prices. We as consumers have benefited from that structure and no
one asked the question "why is it so cheap to get things made in China?"
Today, I think that most businesses that sell a consumer product that
bears their brand name understand risk and the responsibility equation
that goes along with third world manufacturing. What they don't
understand is what's next, what will they be accountable for tomorrow that
they haven't thought about today.
Is Corporate Social Responsibility a movement?
Yes. This is a very wide spread movement, and it is wide spread for three
reasons: first, 2,500 companies around the world, including many of the
largest multinational corporations have voluntarily decided to start
creating corporate social responsibility reports that look at their
behavior and articulate the types of commitments they are willing to make
in this area. Second, beyond voluntary participation, you also have many
companies who have been forced into becoming more transparent and
responsible whether they like it or not. Today, The Association of
British Insurers, the largest insurance company in Britain, requires every
company that it insures to make disclosures with regard to environmental
risks, human rights risks, risks in relationship with community
organizations and so on, because this insurance carrier sees these areas
as business risk that they as insurers need to understand before deciding
whether or not they will continue to provide insurance to those companies.
Those companies represent over twenty five percent of the total value of
British Stock Exchange.
So you have structural change with governments and insurance companies
that is forcing companies to move in this direction - you have voluntary
participation by companies who are committed to being leaders and
innovators in this area, and the third force is driven by businesses that
have decided not for altruistic reasons but for purely business and
financial reasons that by being more responsible they can mitigate
financial risks that they would otherwise encounter. An example of this
third force is the response of many companies to global warming, where
they have said to themselves I need to deal with this not because I
believe in global warming or care about the environment, but that the
liability associated in contributing to global warming is too great - so I
need to take responsibility for my company's role in contributing to CO2
emissions. For these three reasons this is a wide spread movement, and
the growth has been dramatic. If you go back even two years ago, you
would only see only a fraction of the companies that are participating
today.
How can CSR impact the public's impression of the corporation?
The challenge is that CSR issues are not black and white. There is no
such thing as a perfectly responsible company. You can find something
wrong with every business on the face of the earth including Seventh
Generation. Even those companies like Patagonia, Tom's of Maine, and Ben
and Jerry's that you might think are wonderful, have issues of
responsibility that they need to deal with. That's a challenging picture
for the public, because once the consumer comes to terms with the fact
that every company is somewhat good and somewhat bad, the question for
them becomes "how good is good enough?" How good does a company have to
be for the consumers and shareholders and investors to feel like "this is
a company I want to support?" This is one the most challenging questions
both the corporate world and the public face. You have many companies
like Nike who became very well known for mishandling one significant
aspect of their business, in their case labor relations and supply chain
management, who is not known, and in fact has failed to effectively
communicate, many of the positive things they have accomplished on the
environmental front. This challenge is compounded by the fact that the
media tends to publicize the bad and largely ignore the good. Often
companies are reluctant to promote their positive accomplishments for fear
that by holding themselves up for doing something good will only attract
more criticism - which then becomes part of a never ending spiral of
confrontation, positive change, followed by closer examination, followed
by more confrontation.
Again, it is through this concept of transparency and disclosure that we
as employees, consumers and investors can get enough information to come
to those conclusions ourselves. Today, thankfully, there are an
increasing number of third parties who read and evaluate these corporate
disclosers, much the way financial analysts attempt to decode corporate
financial statements, and who can help draw conclusions with which we can
agree or disagree. What is so hard is that the playing field does not yet
have defined and agreed upon boundaries - there is no consensus about what
is an acceptable balance between the positives and negatives, or a rate of
change that is fast enough and deep enough to clearly conclude that a
business is doing a "good" job in fulfilling its obligation to be a
responsible corporate citizen. This is a new world that business has to
navigate through, and why they need help.
CSR has been evolving more rapidly in the EU - the corporate scandals
in the US over the last two years have made CSR much more relevant to US
companies, will this continue and how?
Yes, it absolutely will continue, and I believe that one of the most
important things that will accelerate this positive change is our voice as
stakeholders - whether we are employees, investors, customers or members
of the communities in which a business operates. The more vocal we are
to corporate America and the more aggressive we are in letting them know
that these things matter, the quicker they are going to change. This
means sending letters and emails, filling out proxy statements, boycotting
companies who refuse to respond, supporting the NGOs who you feel are the
most effective watchdogs and voting for the politicians who are willing to
stand up to lobbyists and corporate interests. As I have said, there are
many positive signs already.
For all of the years we have had shareholder initiatives on proxy
statements from public companies, none of these shareholder initiatives -
whether they were about dealing with global warming, eliminating chlorine
from manufacturing, minority purchasing or diversity on the board of
directors, ever got more than a ten to fifteen percent vote from
shareholders. In the past year, some of those same shareholder
initiatives received up to eighty percent of all shareholder votes. That
sends a strong message - when eighty percent of your shareholders tell you
that you need to make a fundamental change in your corporate governance or
you need to make a fundamental change in your environmental behavior, that
message is inescapable to the management of the company. The same power is
true for us as consumers by what brand we buy and don't buy. We have been
brainwashed into thinking that we as individuals are not powerful. In fact
we are very powerful, more powerful than we realize, especially when we
come together and act as a group. The Internet provides us with a great
opportunity to come together as a collective voice and share our opinions
with companies.
Where do you think CSR will be in five years?
I believe that we are on a path that will fundamentally raise the
expectations the public has of the role business should play in society.
As we have seen with the alacrity with which Dick Grasso stepped down from
the New York Stock Exchange or the speed in which the president of American
Airlines stepped down from his job when he was caught dealing dishonestly
behind closed doors with the Labor Unions, there are signs that the public
won't tolerate the kind of behavior that they have accepted from business
for hundreds of years. I think that this new level of expectation will
change the guidelines in which business must behave in the years to come.
That doesn't mean that every business will become a good business, but we
will set the bar higher for business than it has ever been set before.
And the setting of the bar higher will force business to consider its
responsibility and contribution to society as a fundamental part for what
it needs to do to have a license to operate. It will never just be about
how much money do you make because you will have to make that money in a
responsible fashion.
How has the role of the Non Governmental Organizations changed?
The role of NGOs has also changed as dramatically as the role of
businesses has changed. We think of Greenpeace as this endlessly
combative organization, casting a bright light on all the corporate
misdeeds around the world, and yet today, you have Greenpeace in England
working in deep collaboration with a company like Shell not over a few
months, but over many years. This collaborative relationship is helping
Shell find a way to change, creating a positive impact on the environment.
In many cases behind the scenes, more and more previously combative NGOs
are seeing that they can accomplish much more by working in collaboration
with business. This is a tremendously important and positive change. It
does not mean that those relationships are without conflict, the book
articulates how difficult and strained those relationships often can be,
but in the end those relationships are responsible for producing positive
change. At BP and Shell, at Chiquita, at Starbucks, at Nike, at almost
every company I can think of, some significant part of the positive change
has come about because of a relationship with a NGO.
What did you learn in writing the book?
I learned that underneath the senior management at almost every company,
there is a tremendous desire to do the right thing. And in most cases
when things go seriously wrong, it is the lack of leadership or poor
leadership that sends the company in the wrong direction and not thousands
of employees who have conspired to do the wrong thing. In most cases
employees are waiting for the opportunity to be part of the solution -
waiting for someone to structure an activity that they can participate in
that will allow them to make a positive contribution in their job or
community. The biggest obstacle is usually corporate leadership.
But I also learned that far more corporate leaders than I would have ever
imagined have seen the light and made "becoming responsible" a fundamental
part of where they want to take their companies. There are the well-known
examples like Ray Anderson at Interface, but there are thousands of
unknowns who have gone through the same process, made many of the same
changes, but have not received or chosen to receive the publicity. The
third thing I learned was that society from here on will expect and in
fact demand business to be responsible and make a positive contribution to
our society. This theory, put forth by Professor Lynn Sharpe Paine, author
of the wonderful book Value Shift is an accurate portrayal of a
shift that has taken place in our society. Everyday that I read the
newspaper, I see more affirmation of some behavior that would have been
acceptable only two years ago is no longer acceptable today. It led me
to be optimistic about the change that is taking place. Because truly,
the only way we are going to survive as people on this planet is if
business becomes fundamentally enjoined with the problems that we face
globally. We don't know if it will happen quick enough - we don't know
whether it will unfold in a way that significantly reduces pain and
suffering, but I do feel like this large tanker is slowly turning itself
and heading in the right direction.
Who should buy this book?
This book is not just written to be a valuable tool for business leaders
and business management, it is written for employees who want to
understand what is reasonable to expect of the company they work. It is
also written for us the consumer, so we can clarify what to expect from
the companies we support through our purchasing choices. And finally,
those who work in the nonprofit sector who want to better understand how
they can constructively and strategically engage with businesses and find
ways to work collaboratively rather than in conflict should find the book
of great interest.
You have accomplished a great deal at Seventh Generation, a relatively
small company. Is this process scalable to large corporations?
Resoundingly, yes, because some of the leading examples of companies who
are becoming more responsible and are cited in the book are some of the
world's largest companies. If you look at a company like Intel that has
sixty thousand people, they appear to have a culture, a philosophy and a
structure that is in keeping with many of the ideas contained in this
book. There are other examples like Hewlett Packard or even companies
that are in the process of changing like BP and Shell. When you look at
what is happening with the world's biggest companies, you simply can't say
this is only possible among small companies. Yes, it started among
smaller companies - it started with The Body Shop and Ben and Jerry's and
Patagonia, but that baton is being passed to medium and large companies
today. These larger companies do face different challenges, none of which
they can't overcome to become truly responsible businesses.
How did you get interested in the whole idea of responsible
business?
Much of my interest in responsible business started from my experience of
growing up in the sixties when I became aware that we all have a
responsibility as citizens to make the most positive contribution to our
society. This individual experience is something I have carried with me
as a founder and leader of businesses. I do truly see that business is
the most powerful force that can effect positive change in the world -
once you realize this, you want to harness the power and the resources to
ensure that your company makes a positive impact and contribution. A
positive contribution can be educating your customers, making more
responsible products, making a positive contribution to the community - it
is truly a process without end. Once you see the opportunity and accept
the responsibility, you have no choice but to participate.
The first book I wrote back in 1988 was How to Make the World a Better
Place - a beginners guide which was an exploration of what we can do
as individuals. This new book is essentially "how to make the world a
better place for businesses."
What is your advice to other CEOs?
Before you jump head first into becoming a socially responsible business
you want to look very carefully at what that means for you as an
individual and as a leader, because it will require a lot of you. You
need to examine the way you lead and the way you manage people. As Gandhi
once said, "You have to be the change you want to see." That means being a
roll model of what you want your company to be and how you want your
employees to relate to each other. You have to be an example of that
level of honesty - you have to be an example of that level of disclosure -
you have to be an example of how trust is created. I would hope that CEOs
would welcome knowing where they stood with regard to these important
issues. Every year I am evaluated anonymously by all of the employees at
my company. They let me know how much they trust me. They tell me how
effectively they think I live the company's values, where my blind spots
and weaknesses are, where I need to grow and change. Without that kind of
evaluation it is really hard to know how others see you. It's sort a like
driving in a foreign country with out a map.
If you can't be an example of what you want your company to be, I don't
believe your company stands a chance of succeeding in becoming a truly
responsible business. You need to be committed to the personal growth,
the personal work and the personal change that will unquestionably be
required of you to succeed in making these kinds of changes at your
business.
WHAT MATTERS MOST:How a small group of pioneers are teaching social
responsibility to big business - and why big business is listening
By Jeffrey Hollender with Stephen Fenichell Publisher:
Basic Books
Publication Date: February 2004
Price: $26.00/hardcover //
ISBN: 0-7382-0902-3
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